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Runoffs, Rules And Tom's Thoughtful Post Gt1 racers discussion of rules and costs
Posted 29 October 2011 - 12:58 PM
Posted 03 November 2011 - 01:59 AM
Posted 03 November 2011 - 08:22 AM
I think Rick's post is right on, I might disagree a little about concern for regulations but will explain later, on of the things I was going to explain whenever I hear someone wanting a spec. engine or something to have more of a chance, I was going to explain a couple things on the way a lot of us look at racing and Rick's is one of them. I would tell them, here is a guy that never had top equipment for a long time, but he's a great driver, smooth and smart, that a independant guy can sometimes outdo some of the big teams, like Rick did in the TransAm event at R.A. 1998-2000 (forgot the year), it had rained a little before the race but stopped before the race got started, Rick started in 21st or 22nd place, he went out on slicks while everyone went out on rains, well the track started to dry out, everyone had to come in to change tires, but not Rick, he finished 7th and I believe got the Hard Charging award or most positons improved, it was a good day for him. For me, sometimes outsmarting some of the bigger teams can be just as satisfying as a win.
Here's what I wrote on how I look at racing;
About the costs of racing, I guess I'm somewhat of a different breed of racer, my instructor in '84' said I had talent for a race car, I tried my hand at a couple of small businesses so it would pay for my racing, but didn't work out and I missed out on the racing I would have loved to done, but that's life and I still can get some racing in, being 56, but seeing some of the big money teams never dishearten me. I went to R.A. for the first time in '82' when CART came to race and soon after that, TransAm was included with the group. I saw DeAtley with two cars (Hobbs and Ribbs I believe), I talked with the Fischer engine guy, there were 3 new engines in crates sitting by the semi and 5 more were being flown in that night. That never discouraged me, I just looked at it as being able to race more and being in a pro series, going back to my friend with Dave Marcus, a little different, but he raced because of his love for it, never was going to win at it but he made a good living from it, there are probably half of the NASCAR field that know they have no chance to win, but love to race, yet we all hope we could have a chance to win. Now a days, we get some of these cry babies, oh I don't have a chance, we need to run spec. engines or spec. cars, I swear the next time someone pulls that, I'm going to lose it and tell them to shut up, get out of racing, pick up a fishing rod and go fishing, they probably complain the fish are not the same size.
Some guys are probably wondering when they see me post, saying I know the cost yet turn around talking about belts and fire bottles being recertified, the extra costs to do that isn't much and why worry about it, it's the pricipal of the thing plus we know a lot of race groups have been in SCCA for over 30-40 years, there isn't much changing were we have to change rules. So my first pricipla thing, is that I wonder if it's like what I've seen in engineering firms, some people will do busy work to keep their jobs, so I feel the same with SCCA, that they may have gotten too big with staff and they are doing little rule changes to keep their jobs. The other principal thing that I explain is this; One regulation change isnít much, but add in a couple more along with higher fuel prices, higher tire prices, traveling costs and lodging costs, I just donít want SCCA to add to the burden, like the belts, doesnít do one thing for added safety, belts will hold together for over ten years and when one sees Indy or ALMS not have a regulation on recertifying belts or bottles, why is SCCA burdening the racers. My logic tells me this, if corporation tax was raised from 35% to 37%, one could say thatís not much, but now add in property taxes going up every year, taxes for utility bills a little more when they raise prices, if your state raises itís sales tax, now that pie is getting bigger, I feel it's the same with racing, add everything together.
If SCCA is changing the rules like on belts from 5 years to 2 years, it doesn't add to the safety factor at all, then one can only conclude that SCCA is working with the manufacturers so that racers spend more money and sorry but that ticks me off, their doing a lot of what the government is doing and it's our club, we pay the money. I wrote to Randy a year ago and was able to show them how inconsistent a couple of rules were, in GT1 stating fuel cell to be 31.6 gallons, when fuel cells are 32 gallons by the manufacturer and TransAm guys run 33 gallon, so I said, is SCCA doing that so they have something to disqualify a racer if they want, SCCA took it out of the regulations for GT1. The other was the left drivers side side protection in TransAm, they wanted 1 3/4" round, but I stated cars with 4 link setup couldn't have a round in the way, SCCA left the 1 3/4" in but took out the round.
So we now come to another little regulation that SCCa has managed to mess up, part of it's principal thing, but also so TransAm and Gt1 cars can be consistent, not to add to our costs and to quit changing just to do busy work, if we can get SCCA to go along, it would help us all, knowing what our costs will be every 5 years or so and the rules stay consistent. Right now we have for TransAm, 5 years on fuel bladders, 2 yrs on recertifing fire bottles and nothing on belts. For GT1 we have 5 yrs on fuel bladders, nothing on fire bottles and belts went from 5 yrs to 2 yrs. I would be happy and I think a lot of us racers if we went to a 5 year rule across the board for GT1 and TransAm, 5 yrs. on bladder, on fire bottle and on belts. What I'm afraid of, if it's mentioned to SCCA, they might change the fire bottle and belts to 2 yrs for both groups, because I believe they are working with the manufacturers to get us to spend more money.. I Will Take Any Suggestions on How Should We Handle This?
It was also good to hear that some of the TransAm guys didn't like the right side driver's net (I feel it could hurt one's vision and not help with a neck injury) and tried to get SCCA not to go with it, but SCCA Pro being stubborn wouldn't listen to them, so we GT1 racers are not alone and we have the TransAm racers with us on a lot of items for both groups..
So do a lot of racers agree with me, that a 5 yr rule for everything safety wise makes a lot of sense? Should we write to SCCA? each one of us or try to do something as a group? should a letter be written and other racers can send a letter to that person to be included with the main letter, try to get some numbers to back us up? But be warn, we know how SCCA works, they could make everything 2 yrs.
here is my email address if anyone would like to do a response to my suggestion, email@example.com
Posted 05 November 2011 - 09:11 PM
Posted 07 November 2011 - 03:03 PM
By the way, if anyone wants to buy my car for about 40K, I'm listening, because I really want to buy Rick's ass-kicking Camaro!
This post has been edited by RACE71: 07 November 2011 - 03:05 PM